Chamblee54

The Fun Loving Phelps Family

Posted in Uncategorized by chamblee54 on July 23, 2010






There is an amusing story making the rounds of the innertubes at the moment. It seems like those fun lovers from the Westboro Baptist Church decided to protest a comic book convention in San Diego. The pulp fiction fans had a welcoming party, in costume. Lots of cameras were used, and a good time was had by all.

Maybe this is not the best approach to take. The WBC peeps are living a fantasy, just like those who wear an intergalactic warrior uniform. Of course, the Phelps folks think they are spreading the truth, while most of the comic book crowd knows they are not really androids.

Suppose, instead of protesting the WBC, they were welcomed to the fantasy fair. In the free marketplace of ideas, the most creative will get the most notice. Let style take its rightful place in front of substance. If this were to happen, the WBC crowd would be ignored, instead of getting the persecution they so crave.

The main difference between WBC and more mainstream brands of Jesus worship is the style. Yes, very few preachers picket the funerals of soldiers. But the substance of the poison…that homosexuals are terrible people because the Bible says so, if you don’t agree with me you go to hell… is very similar to the message delivered, at top volume, in thousands of pulpits every sunday morning. None of them speak well for Jesus.

PG was going to make a comment about pedophilia, and how this does not seem to be a problem at WBC. Before he did so, he went to Google to make sure. He found this item. :
“Security was tight today as Westboro Baptist Church member Shirley Phelps-Roper appeared in Sarpy County Court to answer charges that she mutilated a flag and put her child in danger while protesting at the funeral of a Bellevue, Neb., soldier…According to Bellevue police, Phelps-Roper had her 10-year-old son stomp on an American flag. Church members had obtained a city of Bellevue permit to protest.”






PG has never been one to travel to another city, and pay serious money, for panel discussions. He did, however, go to the dragon con parade last year. As the last medieval wench made her way down Peachtree, there was a voice heard through a bullhorn. A man was waving a sign and screaming about Jesus.

PG made the mistake of saying that the low resolution pictures were from an abortion. It turned out to represent Jesus on the cross. If you believe in fantasy , that is.

(What follows is quote from that post about fantasy .) A theme of the post yesterday (see comments) was the importance of knowing fantasy from reality. The preacher was living a fantasy. Few are impressed by his rhetoric. He creates ill will for Jesus. The grossout pictures of the crucifixion do the same. PG posted last week about the damage that selfish preachers do to Jesus .

It should be noted that photography did not exist when Jesus lived. Nor did people speak English. That does not prevent people from believing that an English translation, of a Greek rendering, of Aramaic lessons, is the inerrant word of G-d. If you believe the Bible is the inerrant word of G-d, then it is not much of a leap to believe those pictures were real.

Another problem is the placement of the spikes. The spike that held feet to a cross was driven into a spot between the Achilles heel and the bone. No bones were broken, and the feet were secured to the cross. The victim was not going to walk again.

The spikes that held the arms were driven through a space in the wrist. Here again, no bones were broken, and the arms were not going to be pulled away from the cross. In the picture, there was a rope tying Jesus to the cross at this spot, and the spike was going to go in a couple of inches up the arm. But when you believe your fantasy, details like this are not important.

There is a comment from the preacher, Bro Cope, that is jaw dropping.

Here is the rub. We not only don’t expect to convert everyone, we dont’ normally expect to convert anyone. That is not our purpose at all. There are many purposes in what we do, but way down on the list is to convince them of anything. To be quite frank with you, our main purpose is to get people moving – towards God or away. We can not by our preaching put a particular direction in anyone’s heart. What we can do by our preaching is to ascertain what is already there, and then to magnify what is there. If going away from God, we drive them further away. If leaning towards God, we draw them in closer. And from you rantings derived from ignorance, it appears we are doing exactly what we are supposed to be doing.
By getting people to move, then God can steer them where He wants them to go. Then the person’s salvation is accomplished by God Himself. You see, if we can convince someone to believe by our eloquence, then somebody else can convince them to disbelieve. The conversion of a soul requires the action of God, and He needs the person to be moving in one direction or the other.




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  1. Michael said, on July 23, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Poor deluded cultists (WBC).

  2. chamblee54 said, on July 23, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Thanks for stopping by.


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