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Religious Arguments

Posted in Religion by chamblee54 on April 18, 2009

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The other day Father Tony posted a video at Bilerico (ba LAIR i co) about how to argue. He acknowledged that he is a venomous person.

FT used to be employed by the Catholic church. That is how he got his handle. PG thought on this for a while, and saw a connection. A little more thinking, and PG pondered that crowd pleaser, the religious argument.

Jesus Worship is a religion of beliefs, rather than practices. One of their key beliefs is the notion that you should convert those who disagree with you. If these people don’t agree with you about certain things, they go to hell. This lust to “evangelize” leads to a lot of arguments.

One of the rules for living/arguing that Father Tony expresses is that, yes, you are going to argue. This is especially true for romantic partnerships, but includes all sorts of human relating. How does this relate to religion? If you believe in a religion, does this mean you are compelled to argue with those who you disagree with?

Religious belief can be a source of strength and comfort to those lucky enough to be in the loop. For many of the rest of us, Religion (especially the Jesus Worship variety) is a source of venom. The endless arguments that believers loudly put forth spoil whatever benefits these beliefs can have. It is enough to make you wish you would never hear the word Jesus again.

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  1. Father Tony said, on April 18, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    I may be atypical, but I have never felt the need or desire to argue religion. I have also never felt the need or desire to market or proclaim the “Good News”. I always felt that I was different from many religious people in that way. I always thought that someone would be converted only if he or she felt that there was something irresistible about me that could be traced to some inner spirituality that they would then pursue for themselves. That may be rooted in the fact that nothing – and I mean nothing – that the Catholic Church ever taught me brought me to Jesus. I got there on my own by exposure to what I read of him in the gospels. His words and teachings and parables had all the integrity and truth I needed. The church got it all screwed up. It’s like when you are having a really good conversation with someone at a bar or a party and a loud drunk horns in on you and spills stuff on you. That is what the church is between me and Jesus. And that is exactly what the church was not supposed to be. Yup. Catholicism is a loud obnoxious drunk who breaks up the conversation between Jesus and the human race. That is why the Catholic Church needs to be cut down to the root. So it can re-grow itself correctly. It’s almost too late, but not quite.

  2. chamblee54 said, on April 18, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Thanks for stopping by.
    Compared to the Baptists I am used to, Catholics are very civilized.
    In my case, the experience of knowing Jesus Worshipers has been so awful that it rubs off on Jesus. I feel like I know Jesus through his believers, and it is UGLY.
    The whole matter of religion is like a quicksand pit, before you know it you are caught and escape is impossible. I think I would like to enjoy my saturday night by thinking about something else.
    Your blog is amazing. Keep up the good work.

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