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Posted in Religion by chamblee54 on September 5, 2009




PG made a mistake. The preacher in front of the GP plaza held a picture board, which was poorly rendered. PG made the mistake of assuming it was abortion pictures. It turns out to be an image of Jesus on the cross.

The Georgia Pacific building is on the site of the Lowes Grand Theater. On December 15, 1939, Gone With The Wind had its world premiere there. In a church choir was the ten year old Martin Luther King Jr. GWTW was about as real about the ante bellum south as the starship troopers were about intergalactic warfare.

The GP plaza is where Forsyth Street comes into Peachtree. For some reason, the wind on Forsyth Street is very strong, and this volume of air beats against the GP plaza. On DragonCon parade Saturday, the wind coming back from the plaza was a measure of revenge.

A theme of the post yesterday (see comments) was the importance of knowing fantasy from reality. The preacher was living a fantasy. Few are impressed by his rhetoric. He creates ill will for Jesus. The grossout pictures of the crucifixion do the same. PG posted last week about the damage that selfish preachers do to Jesus.

It should be noted that photography did not exist when Jesus lived. Nor did people speak English. That does not prevent people from believing that an English translation, of a Greek rendering, of Aramaic lessons is the inerrant word of G-d. If you believe the Bible is the inerrant word of G-d, then it is not much of a leap to believe those pictures were real.

Another problem is the placement of the spikes. The spike that held feet to a cross was driven into a spot between the Achilles heel and the bone. No bones were broken, and the feet were secured to the cross.

The spikes that held the arms were driven through a space in the wrist. Here again, no bones were broken, and the arms were not going to be pulled away from the cross. In the picture, there was a rope tying Jesus to the cross at this spot, and the spike was going to go in a couple of inches up the arm.

But when you believe your fantasy, details like this are not important.






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  1. Bro Cope said, on September 6, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    You mentioned about creating ill will for Jesus. Which Jesus are you referring to? The Jesus of the Bible was hated and despised by the people He went to. By His own prediction, He was killed. There are 9 times in the New Testament where the crowd’s reaction was to plot how to kill Him, or to actually try to kill Him. Three attempts were made on His life. The four time succeeded. In His own words: “The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.” He wasn’t killed because He was loving on them too much. He was killed for telling them they were evil and hypocrites.

    And if you think it is strange that preaching would produce hatred towards Christ, He also said this ” And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake”. The hatred you saw coming out of the crowd is exactly what was in their hearts. In fact if preaching did not produce that “ill will” as you call it, it would not be doing it’s job. Preaching is supposed to force to come out of people’s mouths the things that are the treasures of their heart. What you saw was a pump out of the cesspool of their hearts.

    What you observed only proved what was written in the Bible. “If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.”

    • chamblee54 said, on September 6, 2009 at 2:26 pm

      Thank you for stopping by.
      This is too nice of a day to argue about Jesus.

  2. Bro Cope said, on September 6, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    It is a nice day, to be sure, but I think you mis-read my post. It is not an argument to simply point out that the things you observed were precisely predicted concerning preaching and Jesus’ reception by the world. Argument would mean that certain facts were open to interpretation.

    Jesus’ hatred and rejection, and His prediction that we also would be hated and rejected, is openly and clearly stated in the Bible as being the normal, expected, and even desired result. Therefore, pointing out the obvious correlation between historical record and current events doesn’t qualify as “interpretation”, therefore can not be argument. It is what it is, an observation of truth.

    Enjoy your day.

  3. chamblee54 said, on September 6, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Anyone can talk about Jesus. Not everyone has good motives. The key is trust.
    The loudmouth downtown does not care if the listeners trust him. He is like a dog that will not quit barking. He seeks to annoy. The crowd, to their credit. mostly ignored him.
    The Third Commandment refers to the improper use of a sacred name. When you talk about Jesus without trust, you are speaking in vain.

  4. Preach It Loud said, on September 6, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    The KEY is not “trust”…the people that followed Jim Jones TRUSTED him didn’t they? You liberal theologians are all alike! The KEY is TRUTH! God’s Word is truth…Jesus said that the TRUTH would set the sinner free, He did not say that TRUST in the messenger will set them free. God uses the FOOLISH things of the world to confound those that are wise in their own eyes. The Bible says that it PLEASED God that by the foolishness of PREACHING to save them that believe. 1 Corinthians 1:21 This is the direct opposite of your PRAGMATIC analysis of the situation…you equate effectiveness with “trust”…God does not share your pragmatic view. He equates effectiveness with obedience to His TRUTH. When He sent the Apostles out to PREACH the Word He did not add a disclaimer…’be sure that your hearers trust you before you preach My Word’ on the contrary, the Bible says that God Himself will see to it that His Word has the effect that He intends for it…Read Isaiah 55:11 “…My word shall not return to me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please…” God’s Word accomplishes that which he intends for it and it is the preachers responsibility to deliver that Word faithfully.

  5. chamblee54 said, on September 6, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    If you want to convert someone, you should find out what motivates him. If you want to learn about Chamblee 54, you can read some of his thoughts about religion.
    If want to communicate with someone, you should speak a language that he understands. You might also consider that the person has probably heard your message before, many times, and has decided that he does not agree with it. You are not so special that repeating this message one more time is going to change his mind.

  6. Linda said, on September 6, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Alow me to re-intoduce you to Christ…

  7. Bro Cope said, on September 6, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Here is the rub. We not only don’t expect to convert everyone, we dont’ normally expect to convert anyone. That is not our purpose at all. There are many purposes in what we do, but way down on the list is to convince them of anything. To be quite frank with you, our main purpose is to get people moving – towards God or away. We can not by our preaching put a particular direction in anyone’s heart. What we can do by our preaching is to ascertain what is already there, and then to magnify what is there. If going away from God, we drive them further away. If leaning towards God, we draw them in closer. And from you rantings derived from ignorance, it appears we are doing exactly what we are supposed to be doing.

    By getting people to move, then God can steer them where He wants them to go. Then the person’s salvation is accomplished by God Himself. You see, if we can convince someone to believe by our eloquence, then somebody else can convince them to disbelieve. The conversion of a soul requires the action of God, and He needs the person to be moving in one direction or the other.

    The most dangerous place in the world to be spiritually is dead in the water. Another way is to say “luke warm”. To the church, Jesus said, “I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.”

    This tells me certain things. God can work with hot — well, duh. God can work with cold! But He can not work with lukewarm. Since He can not work with the luke warm, He vomits them out. Our job as preachers is to move people — hot or cold makes no difference — but move them out of the middle where God can not work with. Apparently the preachers were being effective in their mission.

    One more thing. One of the main purposes for the preaching is this: “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Our preaching is to give every man on the earth at least one chance to get right with God. The witness thing is such that when you are judged, you will not be able to plead ignorance of God’s judgment. You have already been warned. You have been given the only chance you may ever be given to escape the punishment of wicked men coming from a wrathful God who does not ever forget.

    The problem in the world is sin, and the punishment it rightly and justly demands. Christ Jesus provides an escape from the necessary justice, but only if you meet the necessary conditions. He is able, and only He is able, to absorb the wrath of God directed towards sinners, and to free from both sin and punishment all those who come to Him in humility and submission.

    Without that, you are toast. You will die in your sins, and be judged for them. You will have no escape, and God will have shut off all avenues of justification. That, my dear skeptic, is what “for a witness” is for.

  8. Mitch Metzger said, on September 7, 2009 at 3:51 am

    Cope – Great apologetics. I’m going to “copy and save” your replies. Thanks for taking the time to “think and type” all this out. Mitch

  9. Bro Cope said, on September 7, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Thanks Mitch. Such praise from someone whose work for the Lord causes mine to pale into insignificance is heart warming. Your the man.


  10. chamblee54 said, on September 7, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    You are like a dog that won’t quit barking. This does not speak well for Jesus.

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