The Debate Part Two

Posted in Library of Congress, Politics, Undogegorized by chamblee54 on September 29, 2016








When DJT and HRC agree on something, it is time to look out. While HRC did not explicitly say HELL YEA, you know that she agreed with this: TRUMP: And they’re going to end up getting nuclear. I met with Bibi Netanyahu the other day. Believe me, he’s not a happy camper.

HRC is in a bind on the Iran/Iraq/Israel conundrum. She is obviously on the Israeli payroll, and is all too eager to provide the services paid for. On the other hand, she has to do something. A nuclear war over Iran is just too tacky to contemplate. So she helps to negotiate a treaty, which may, or may not, prevent Iran from getting the bomb. Israel enjoys having a nuclear monopoly in her region.

CLINTON: “With respect to Iran, when I became secretary of state, Iran was weeks away from having enough nuclear material to form a bomb. They had mastered the nuclear fuel cycle under the Bush administration. They had built covert facilities. They had stocked them with centrifuges that were whirling away…”

DJT gets a lot of bad press, deservedly, for fibbing. To nobodies surprise, HRC tells a few whoppers. The bit about “Iran was weeks away” from having the bomb is simply not true. The whole Israeli pearl clutching about Iran thing is a distraction for the treatment of Palestinians. While Israel is blustering about Iran, she can ignore the horror that is Gaza.

Then there is the Brooklyn Debate. HRC recites the Israel line verbatim. She knows her lines. BLITZER: “Thank you. Secretary Clinton, do you agree with Senator Sanders that Israel overreacts to Palestinians attacks, and that in order for there to be peace between Israel and the Palestinians, Israel must, quote, end its disproportionate responses?” CLINTON: “I negotiated the cease-fire between Israel and Hamas in November of 2012. I did it in concert with… President Abbas of the Palestinian authority based in Ramallah, I did it with the then Muslim Brotherhood President, Morsi, based in Cairo, working closely with Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Israeli cabinet. I can tell you right now I have been there with Israeli officials going back more than 25 years that they do not seek this kind of attacks. They do not invite the rockets raining down on their towns and villages. They do not believe that there should be a constant incitement by Hamas aided and abetted by Iran against Israel…”

The paragraph before the “weeks away” comment was noteworthy. CLINTON: “Let’s talk about two important issues that were briefly mentioned by Donald, first, NATO. You know, NATO as a military alliance has something called Article 5, and basically it says this: An attack on one is an attack on all. And you know the only time it’s ever been invoked? After 9/11, when the 28 nations of NATO said that they would go to Afghanistan with us to fight terrorism, something that they still are doing …”

This was the only time during the debate that Afghanistan was mentioned. This is the longest war in American history. It is fifteen years after 9/11. The United States, and NATO, still have not gotten enough revenge. The only people to benefit from this war are the heroin merchants.

It should be noted that one country with a heroin problem is Russia. It is a wealthy energy producing country, it is near Afghanistan, and has a population that is well known for wanting to get fucked up. Could Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin be making money off the heroin trade?

Getting back to Mr. Dump Mr. Trump, he is in the position where he can endlessly complain. He can claim to be opposed to the war in Iraq, and then whine about the way it was fought. DJT can say anything he wants, because he never had to express an opinion on the record. By contrast, HRC was a US Senator in 2002, and had to vote, on the record, on the AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ RESOLUTION OF 2002. All of her campaign contributors called her before that vote, to remind her of their investment. (It should be noted that Barack Obama was an Illinois state senator at the time. He did not have to take a stand either.)

This was still a chance for the HRC moving lips to call out the DJT moving lips. CLINTON: “Well, I hope the fact-checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard. Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.” TRUMP: “Wrong.” CLINTON: “That is absolutely proved over and over again.” TRUMP: “Wrong. Wrong.” Pictures today are from The Library of Congress. They were taken in Douglas, Georgia. The date was July, 1938. The photographer was Dorothea Lange.







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